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AvonsAngel
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| kaycatlady wrote: | | I have a friend who was diagnosed on the basis of a telephone conversation with a health care professional over the phone and was feeling utterly crap until he started taking his tamiflu and now feels infinately worse as it seems to be making him constantly vomit! It is a worry though because a lot of people are taking it who almost certainly do not have swine flu and you are limited to one dose of drugs per patient so if they do get it later on and really need it, they will already have taken their allocation. How the hell can it be diagnosed effectively over the telephone? Ridiculous! Also I am supposed to be called up for the vaccine because I have recently finished chemo I am considered to be at greater risk of developing complications, but am really concerned about how quickly this has been rushed out. Will it be effective or worse still have really unpleasant side effects that we are not aware of? |
Kay the reason so many with compromised immune systems have become more ill than the general public is from pnumonia complications.
Ask your GP if you should have a pneumonia vaccine with the swine flu vaccine to be doubly sure of protection.
I am asking my GP about the vaccines because at my age level with Diabetes and 2 previous heart attacks I am in a high risk catagory.
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Moggy
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Firefighters are hosing down the roof and yard muttering something about what a waste of good meds.
No pub bar stools or Pixies so scoot on home to Soma Street with the other lawbreakers of clans Fish & Moggy |
Okay, fair enough, we'll clear off to Soma Street and build a big bonfire outside the town hall. Big fireworks display there tomorrow night. Assemble by the Doughty Statue. Bring your own grenades and cheesy wotsits. 
I'm sure the Green Man don't mind.
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Green Man
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Actually I do mind. Clear off the lot of you! 
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Moggy
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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I'm afraid we shall proceed regardless. 
We do need a 'guy' though, so stick around by all means.
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AvonsAngel
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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I think it is fitting and proper for a greenman to attend the bonfire
ceremony;bet he would be delicious with melted cheesy wotsits 
erm about the grenades? 
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manyfishes
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| kaycatlady wrote: | | I have a friend who was diagnosed on the basis of a telephone conversation with a health care professional over the phone and was feeling utterly crap until he started taking his tamiflu and now feels infinately worse as it seems to be making him constantly vomit! It is a worry though because a lot of people are taking it who almost certainly do not have swine flu and you are limited to one dose of drugs per patient so if they do get it later on and really need it, they will already have taken their allocation. How the hell can it be diagnosed effectively over the telephone? Ridiculous! Also I am supposed to be called up for the vaccine because I have recently finished chemo I am considered to be at greater risk of developing complications, but am really concerned about how quickly this has been rushed out. Will it be effective or worse still have really unpleasant side effects that we are not aware of? |
I have been informed, by my sister-in-law pharmacist - that the issue with Tamiflu is NOT that you only have one allocated dose and are not permitted another... it is that the Tamiflu is only effective ONCE within your system... in other words, if you take it (when, let's say, you don't actually have Swine Flu) and then you later contract Swine Flu... and you manage to get hold of a second dose of Tamiflu, your body will effectively ignore the second dose and it will be completely ineffectual. (Its a bit like taking a paracetomol today, for a headache you are going to have next week. It just won't work.)
In otherwords, the UK govnmt. has smuggly announced that it will be able to cover the entire population (eventually) with a Tamiflu dose - but is then dispensing it like Smarties (or Jelly Tots in Moggy's case) to people without the illness, so that when they actually get the illness a second dose will be a complete waste of space.
The other thing is that because people are being wrongly diagnosed with Swine Flu (so that the doctor can avoid seeing you altogether), people with a serious, undiagnosed 'other' illness are not receiving treatment.
I'm sure it will be a consolation to all people dropping dead from Not Swine Flu to know that they could have taken Tamiflu.
('Course, Swine Flu vaccine is not Tamiflu).
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manyfishes
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Moggy wrote: | I'm afraid we shall proceed regardless.
We do need a 'guy' though, so stick around by all means. |
Got LOADS of doctor's receptionists spare - will that do?
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Me
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:35 am Post subject: |
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| manyfishes wrote: | | Moggy wrote: | I'm afraid we shall proceed regardless.
We do need a 'guy' though, so stick around by all means. |
Got LOADS of doctor's receptionists spare - will that do? |
I heard about a person getting Tamiflu then dropping dead because the teenager who dispensed it misdiagnosed another completely different illness. In fact a lot of doctors assume diseases and illnesses of all kinds wait patiently in a queue and never go in more than one at a time. |
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AvonsAngel
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:36 am Post subject: |
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I don't know what to say except sorry you are going through this awful ordeal in the UK.
I have good medical and never take it for granted because so many Americans have no coverage 
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windfola
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| AvonsAngel wrote: | I don't know what to say except sorry you are going through this awful ordeal in the UK.
I have good medical and never take it for granted because so many Americans have no coverage |
I don't think it is an 'ordeal' as such. My swine flu was as bog standard as any other type of flu. A few people always die of the flu every year.
It is simply a huge fuss about nothing and is diverting valuable funds from other areas. That is the tragedy.
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